Ash vs Evil Dead S01E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Yeah, the Evil force grabbed Ash at day in both first two films, but I always thought that it was early in the morning, so it still had some of its night power. But as soon as the Evil possesses Ash, it couldn't stay in him because the sunlight progressed too much.

This is actually an easy fix. For example when they enter the cabin in the last two or three episodes, we could see some of that speeded up nightfall like in Evil Dead II, after which Ash would realise that the Evil is now much stronger that it was during the series. I'm curious if they'll do this.

It almost seems like it actually was their plan all along, because I think that the tattooed girl, Ash's neighbors, Mr. Roper, and Kelly's mom were much more powerful deadites that those we've seen during daylight. But we'll see.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Shouldn't the 2 people wearing ski's and the chef have turned into deadites after the force blew through the diner as well?
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

I wonder if they'll turn up next week if Ruby follows Ash there.

I wonder if there is limitation too. I.e. were there just two spirits, in the vicinity hence two deadites? I know the POV before suggested one entity was responsible for creating two deadites, but they may have been two, side by side taking the same route.

Or to put it another way, is the famous Force POV shots the pov of the specific sembodied spirit that comes to possess an individual. Or is it one entity that acts as a kind of conduit for one or more spirits?

The films mention demons, plural, yet that scene at the end of ED2 where the Evil is made flesh, suggests just one entity is involved. But if it effectively created the demons, or acted as a conduit from hell (a kind of sentient gateway, if you like) that would explain the apparent contradiction.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Well, after watching my favorite football team get destroyed tonight I thought I would finally sit down to watch Ash vs Evil Dead... and see some Deadites and/or people get destroyed. I wasn't let down. It was shocking to see what they did with Ruby so early on in the episode, and the poor little kid. However, we did get to see Kelly go crazy with a meat slicer and a tenderizer.


/Ash's face plant in the urinal was pretty sick.
//Michael Hurst brought back some of those weird Xena like camera angles which are a plus.  



We also get some cool pics from the crew like this one of Nancy.

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via https://twitter.com/VanessaCater/status/673742281279574017
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Robo Rider said:
Shouldn't the 2 people wearing ski's and the chef have turned into  deadites after the force blew through the diner as well?
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I think those weren't possessed because their brains were destroyed. I'm still not sure how this works in the series. It's not enough if you separate the head from the body (like with Lionel), but you need to destroy the brain. It sounds like generic zombie crap, but didn't they follow the same rule in the movies? Linda was walking headless, but just because the head wasn't destroyed. Same thing with Henrietta. She survived cutting her head off, but the headshot then did the trick.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Watched this ep over the weekend. 

Faith restored in the series.

Well done.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

^ Pretty much this.

LOTS of improvement this week. Also quite busy today, but didn't want to fall too far behind, so just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Ruby: thinking he was taken to meet with the Dark Ones to explain why she betrayed them (thinking maybe they retrieved the hand/dagger and gave them to Ruby so she could hunt down the book, but instead she's hunting Ash for the death of her sister). Glad to see something happening with her character.

- Amanda: If this is all they've been building to... what a slow burn just to have her join up with them. I don't really feel like her character went through any development in all those episodes that she couldn't have gone through in this episode alone. Would have preferred just seeing her in the pilot, then her showing up here. More of a surprise, and everything else still works. Plus Ruby's scene at Brujo's would have been cooler as a single-person narrative - we get to see her carefully wander the grounds, try to fight a skeleton and then disappear. Much more dramatic in my opinion.

- Kelly and Pablo: Inevitable, but still not a fan. I get why every show puts in some sort of love story, but I personally don't think its necessary to always have a will they/wont they theme.

- Just Kelly: Liked that they addressed her feelings about deadites and allowed her to let off some steam. Would have preferred to see more emotion there (hitting harder and harder with the tenderizer while breaking down emotionally), but I'm just happy it got addressed, since that was one of the things that's been bugging me about her character.

- The book: Happy they addressed the attempted burning. We need more of this sort of info. Even if they don't go so far as to try and explain all the little inconsistencies, I think at least a little bit of world-building would help (like what we're getting with the Dark Ones). As far as the book trying to eat the locket - nice little callback to AoD with the book itself being able to attack.

- Lem: Felt a bit odd to run into an old friend like that - would have been easy to say that Ash had called ahead to meet with someone. Lem could have been ex-militia, and kicked out for drinking (but still had his connections so Ash would go through him to talk to the militia guys). Would have taken one or two lines of dialogue, and cleared all of that up.

- Militia: Did anyone else get the feeling that maybe Ash was a former militia member, or at least friendly with them at some point in the past? I think that'd be a great backstory for Ash: post-cabin, he's paranoid as hell and joins up with a local militia to get his hands on as much firepower as possible, but then gets the boot after getting drunk and telling them about the evil and cutting up his girlfriend with a chainsaw.

- Final thoughts: MUCH improved on the previous episodes, and really hoping they keep it up!
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Hurley said:
Robo Rider said:
Shouldn't the 2 people wearing ski's and the chef have turned into  deadites after the force blew through the diner as well?
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I think those weren't possessed because their brains were destroyed. I'm still not sure how this works in the series. It's not enough if you separate the head from the body (like with Lionel), but you need to destroy the brain. It sounds like generic zombie crap, but didn't they follow the same rule in the movies? Linda was walking headless, but just because the head wasn't destroyed. Same thing with Henrietta. She survived cutting her head off, but the headshot then did the trick.
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The tattoo girl on the first episode took a shotgun blast to the head and kept coming even though she was missing half her head. You could clearly see that she didn't have much of a brain left. Actually, the only episode so far where the deadites actually acted like the deadites from the movies was the first episode. They levitated, mangled their own bodies and moved like flesh marionettes. My guess is that it was Raimi's influence. From that point on, they've been treating deadites pretty much like regular sentient zombies. Even though they've actually done some cool stuff with them, it's been kinda disappointing. They've been missing a lot of opportunities to do some creative stuff with them.

@MaidOfKandar - I just tried the multiple quotes thing on another thread and it worked! Thanks!
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

KingRob said:
- Kelly and Pablo: Inevitable, but still not a fan. I get why every show puts in some sort of love story, but I personally don't think its necessary to always have a will they/wont they theme.
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They have been bringing up this character ARC for a good while now in the recent episodes, so i'm wondering how this ARC will end up in the finale or during the cabin ARC, this show has been pretty good at keeping up with character arc's, if it's any consulation i saw kelly was alittle nervous when pablo brought up the question to her in the diner. 

"Was all that just a part of you or was that just the demon ?" 

She had this very conflicted look on her face when she was asked that, we never really got a straight forward  answer from her cause of ash coming back to the table, plus the demons/deadties are known for bringing up buried deep personal feelings or thoughts from there host, so im kinda  wondering if kelly didn't throw the friend zone card at pablo for a reason. 

hope this ship sail's soon....
 
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I just know that if they end up getting together at the end of the season, it means we'll probably have to deal with their relationship issues moving forward into Season 2, or a Ross/Rachel break-up/make-up thing constantly happening. Which isn't inherently awful, I guess - just not something I feel matches the overall tone of Evil Dead.

The only relationship drama we should get in Evil Dead should be "but I can't cut up my significant other with a (insert weapon here)! I love them! (cuts them up anyway)" and "I can't believe you killed me! You loved me! Now I'll swallow your soul!"
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

KingRob said:
I just know that if they end up getting together at the end of the season, it means we'll probably have to deal with their relationship issues moving forward into Season 2, or a Ross/Rachel break-up/make-up thing constantly happening. Which isn't inherently awful, I guess - just not something I feel matches the overall tone of Evil Dead.

The only relationship drama we should get in Evil Dead should be "but I can't cut up my significant other with a (insert weapon here)! I love them! (cuts them up anyway)" and "I can't believe you killed me! You loved me! Now I'll swallow your soul!"
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I just imagined ash being Pablo go to guy for advice on relationship problems, oh that won't end well.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Found some very interesting info on the imdb pages for EP 9 and 10. 

Apparently a character named brad is in episode 9 and 10, suzy maxwell is making a return for the finale and the actress who played the tattoo girl from the first episode is in the finale aswell listed as "Lucy". Very intriguing to say the least 

Source's

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4713126/?ref_=ttep_ep9

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4427982/?ref_=ttep_ep10

I'm gonna add onto my Ruby Theory and put this point in a sp tag for this one. (see page 2 for that half baked theory)

The mentioned old lover of ruby's that appears through a 10 year old boy, i bet 100% that it's going to be annie's BF ed from ED2, it would make most logical sense of it being him.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

DyD said:
Hurley said:
Robo Rider said:
Shouldn't the 2 people wearing ski's and the chef have turned into  deadites after the force blew through the diner as well?
Click to expand...

I think those weren't possessed because their brains were destroyed. I'm still not sure how this works in the series. It's not enough if you separate the head from the body (like with Lionel), but you need to destroy the brain. It sounds like generic zombie crap, but didn't they follow the same rule in the movies? Linda was walking headless, but just because the head wasn't destroyed. Same thing with Henrietta. She survived cutting her head off, but the headshot then did the trick.
Click to expand...

The tattoo girl on the first episode took a shotgun blast to the head and kept coming even though she was missing half her head. You could clearly see that she didn't have much of a brain left. Actually, the only episode so far where the deadites actually acted like the deadites from the movies was the first episode. They levitated, mangled their own bodies and moved like flesh marionettes. My guess is that it was Raimi's influence. From that point on, they've been treating deadites pretty much like regular sentient zombies. Even though they've actually done some cool stuff with them, it's been kinda disappointing. They've been missing a lot of opportunities to do some creative stuff with them.
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So much this. The deadites aren't acting like deadites at all and they're super weak. I really hope they rectify this because as much as I love Ash, he's at his best when he's fighting something truly threatening, not just badly written fodder. The first ep treated them well enough with the levitating, mind games, bloodlust etc. but ever since then they've been "walkers" with bad one liners.
 
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New clip from the upcoming episode. http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/videoplay.cfm?colid=1195745#
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Sorry if these questions have been answered already, but:

1) Why did Kelly call her face an "ugly mug" when saying how she'd deal with more deadites?

2) When Ash was saying "Gaylord, "Gladmon," etc. to Lem, was he trying to ask places of where his militant group was?

3) When talking to Kelly and Pablo at the diner, he mentioned stopping somewhere first, and when they did, he wanted Pablo to refuel the chainsaw.  What place?  Why didn't he say what it was?
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

1. I think she was just being self deprecating, in a sarcastic way. Being a touch girl. "Want em to get a loada me! Grr!" Etc.

2 . That was my take on it.

3. The militant organisation are understandably secretive and I think Ash was a bit hesitant to talk about them too much at this stage.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

Mardeadite said:
1. I think she was just being self deprecating, in a sarcastic way. Being a touch girl. "Want em to get a loada me! Grr!" Etc.

2 . That was my take on it.

3. The militant organisation are understandably secretive and I think Ash was a bit hesitant to talk about them too much at this stage.
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3. So Ash meant that he, Pablo and Kelly would go to the militant group's HQ to refuel the chainsaw before going to the cabin, he just didn't tell them that was where they were going?
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

I think so.

Obviously, that's not his main reason for going there.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E06: Killer of Killers Discussion [SPOILERS]

HQ stills have been uploaded

http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/evildead/gallery7/gallery.htm
GOD DAMN, PABLO GOING COMMANDO
 
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Joem1k said:
HQ stills have been uploaded

http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/evildead/gallery7/gallery.htm
GOD DAMN, PABLO GOING COMMANDO
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Damn, this episode is looking good. I'm getting a huge "Evil Dead" vibe from these pics, even though the setting is something completely new to it. That deadite on the first pic and some of those pics in the woods look amazing. I think I haven't been this excited about a new episode since Bait. It really looks like the show turned itself around. 

*Please be good, please be good, please be good...*
 
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